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dark_administrator ([personal profile] dark_administrator) wrote in [community profile] dark_agenda2011-06-17 09:05 pm

Promotion Fest: GLBTQI characters

To launch our celebration of characters with intersectional identities, let’s talk about characters who reflect the wide range of sexualities and genders found among chromatic people. We’d like to highlight chromatic characters who are explicitly identified as gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans, queer and intersexed, as well as encourage interpretations of chromatic characters whose sexuality and gender remain uncoded that resist the assumption that being straight and cis is default.

In particular, we’d like to emphasize that intersectionality does not mean with orthogonality: for the GLBTQI people of color, their chromatic identities can closely interact with their sexual or gender identities, and the two cannot simply be taken separately. The oppressions they face are often both racialized and homophobic/transphobic/queerphobic, and issues facing their communities may be different from the issues that are the face of the mainstream gay rights movement in the white Western world.

We’d also like to consider how chromatic cultures have different frameworks for understanding sexuality and gender: different languages may have their own words for describing sexuality and gender, and there may be cultural roles for people with GLBTQI-analogous identities, such as the Hijra in India or the Two-Spirit among First Nations. Furthermore, most non-Western chromatic cultures have their own queer histories, which have frequently been erased through colonialism and imperialism, and we would like to encourage participants to research such histories while creating fanworks for chromatic GLBTQI characters.

Starting Points

Brainstorming

Here are some chromatic GLBTQI characters that we think would be great nominations for Kaleidoscope:

Suggestions from commenters:

Share your squee for these characters or give other suggestions for chromatic GLBTQI-identified characters in the comments below!

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[personal profile] dorothean 2011-06-18 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
Lance is a gay Asian-American character in the webcomic Yellow Peril, which also currently has a somewhat relevant plot arc at the moment, although the main characters are straight.
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[personal profile] troisroyaumes 2011-06-18 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yay, a webcomic! Thanks for the rec!
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[personal profile] ceares 2011-06-18 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
I Can't Think Straight -Tala and Layla / The World Unseen -Miriam and Amina--same director/writer Shamim Sarif and same actresses Lisa Ray and Sheetal Sheth which includes a glbtqi/chromatic creator as well as characters.

The Wedding Banquet -Wai-Tung Gao
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[personal profile] snowynight 2011-06-18 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
Rice Rhapsody - Daniel, Harry and Leo
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[personal profile] troisroyaumes 2011-06-18 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the rec!
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[personal profile] ceares 2011-06-18 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
oh! I want to see this, but it doesn't look like it's available on Netflix *sadfaces*
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[personal profile] troisroyaumes 2011-06-18 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, we forgot to include The Wedding Banquet! /facepalm

Thanks for the recs! Shamim Sharif's films look really interesting; I'll have to see if I can find them on Netflix.
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[personal profile] ceares 2011-06-18 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
both available on Netflix. I Can't Think Straight was streaming a few months ago
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[personal profile] svollga 2011-06-18 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Noah's Arc is a tv show about gay men of colour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah%27s_Arc_%28TV_series%29
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[personal profile] troisroyaumes 2011-06-18 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks so much for the rec! I've added it to the post.
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[personal profile] gloss 2011-06-18 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Some film suggestions off the top of my head:
Spider Lilies (Taiwanese lesbian drama)
Happy Together by Wong Kar-Wai; one of my favorite movies of all time
The Business of Fancydancing, written & directed by Sherman Alexie, about a queer Native American man and his relationships
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[personal profile] gloss 2011-06-18 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
DC comics, amidst its endless fail, actually has a few lesbian chromatic characters:
Grace Choi, Anissa Pierce (aka Thunder), and Renee Montoya (aka The Question)
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[personal profile] troisroyaumes 2011-06-18 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Happy Together is already on the list--it's one of my favorite movies too! Thanks for the other recs as well; I'll add them to the list. :)

Do you know if the attributed creators for the DC characters you mentioned identify as chromatic? I've been Googling them but thought I'd ask in case you knew off the top of your head:

Grace Choi and Anissa Pierce- Judd Winick, Tom Raney
Renee Montoya - Sean Catherine Derek, Laren Bright, Mitch Brian
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[personal profile] gloss 2011-06-18 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
So sorry I missed Happy Together! D'oh.

I was confused about the chromatic creator rule here, but only because I'm really out of it today (obviously). But, no, as far as I know none of those creators identify as chromatic. I'm sorry for the pointless post, I really am.
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[personal profile] troisroyaumes 2011-06-18 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, no worries! It's quite all right to mention sources with non-chromatic creators and discuss them in these posts, but in terms of updating the lists, we've been trying to keep them to Kaleidoscope-eligible fandoms so that they can serve as references later when we open nominations. Usually I can look up whether a creator is chromatic on my own but I'm really unfamiliar with U.S. comics fandom, so I thought I'd double-check.
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[personal profile] livrelibre 2011-06-18 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen and would recommend from what I remember:

Fish and ELephant (Chinese film)
The Watermelon Woman (film by and about an African-American lesbian)

I haven't seen these:

Nina's Heavenly Delights and
Chutney Popcorn (both Indian diaspora films)

There's also a list of LGBT-related films by country on Wikipedia
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[personal profile] troisroyaumes 2011-06-18 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the recs! I'll add them to the list.
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[personal profile] livrelibre 2011-06-18 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No problem! And I can't believe I forgot to add Caramel, a Lebanese film I like with a lesbian couple Rima and Siham.
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[personal profile] ceares 2011-06-19 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Plan B Bruno and Pablo
streaming on Netflix now! Also apparently Ausente also by director Marco Berger-characters Martin and Sebastian, which I have not seen(warning themes of underaged sex, professor/student from the trailer)both Argentenian

Do Começo Ao Fim Thomas and
Francisco. (warning incest themes)Brazilian

Cut sleeve boys Mel and Ash. Chinese-British


Not sure the next two are considered Chromatic?
Chuecatown Leo,Rey, Victor, Luis --Spanish

Walk on Water Ayal. Israeli. This one is iffy also based on your interpretation of the movie. Less iffy are director Eytan Fox's movie the Bubble and Yossi and Jagger


Brother to Brother African American

Dirty Laundry Patrick/Sheldon African American

Punks African American. Patrick Ian Polk who did Noah's Arc wrote and directed this one as well.

You know when the Kaleidoscope posts started going up, I pretty much went...um, darn it! I don't know any sources with chromatic creators as well as chromatic characters and I am very sad I will not be able to participate and then I was looking at my Yuletide wishlist and realized I had two right there and then y'all went GLBTQI and my brain went oh yeah, those-heh! I'm a little slow people.

Most of these I've seen, some are on my to watch list and a few others I'm staying away from due to subject matter but I've heard good things about.

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[personal profile] troisroyaumes 2011-06-19 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for all of these fantastic recs! I've added them to the list.

I don't know any sources with chromatic creators as well as chromatic characters and I am very sad I will not be able to participate and then I was looking at my Yuletide wishlist and realized I had two right there and then y'all went GLBTQI and my brain went oh yeah, those-heh!

Then the mission of our promo fest has been achieved! :D I'm so happy to hear that these posts have helped you come up with fandoms.